Welcome to the Holistic Wealth podcast. I’m your host, Keisha Blair, wife, mother of three, author of Holistic Wealth and Founder of the Institute on Holistic Wealth. The show will showcase various experts in the key pillars of Holistic Wealth. Each week, we deliver the best information on how to become holistically, wealthy and live your best life.
KEISHA BLAIR: Today, we have a very special guest here with us. I have Jenna-Sophia, and Jenna is a world-renowned subconscious specialist and healer. And she’s based in London and New York. She has worked with thousands of people from celebrities to fortune 500 CEOs to entrepreneurs and billionaires. Using her bespoke approach based in spiritual and scientific methods collected over the past decade, she helps high performers who have tried everything to transform their stress, emotional traumas, triggers, relationship blocks, and physical disease in record time after battling many incurable chronic illnesses. For over a decade, Jenna managed to heal herself using the power of calm mind, and now helps others go beyond their limits, using the subconscious. She is passionate about helping people realign their energy so they can manifest the better health, relationships success and fulfillment.
KEISHA BLAIR: So Jenna, welcome to the show. We’re so happy to have you here.
JENA SOPHIA: Thank you, Keisha, for that intro, I’m really excited to be here with you.
KEISHA BLAIR: Okay, great.
KEISHA BLAIR: And so of course from the intro, I just wanted to give the audience a sense of your journey. I’ve been following you on Instagram and there was this one post that you did that really stuck out with me. And I read it this morning again, Jenna, and you were just talking about your journey and how you started as an entrepreneur, you started basically just not even charging clients, just to build up your clientele and releasing those money blocks, so you could have success and helping others. So, can you tell us about your journey and how it started?
JENA SOPHIA: Yeah, absolutely. So I originally got on the spiritual path from a very young age. I started learning Reiki, which is an energy healing tool. When I was 12 years old. My mom was really keen on introducing us to holistic health things that we could use, whether that be supplements or modalities, and just really exposing us to a different way of thinking from very early on. So I originally from a very young age, suffered with a lot of anxiety. I suffered from depression. I also had other physical reproductive diseases and essentially, I was on a lot of pharmaceutical medication and it was really taking a toll on my mental, physical, and real spiritual health. So I started diving in more into the subconscious mind and understanding how epigenetics works, and affects our health. Epigenetics being the science of our biology in a very new paradigm way of thinking. And this really opened my eyes to what was possible. I found a lot of profound changes happen within my body. From going down this path of exploring the subconscious mind along with veganism as well.
That really helped me take action on the spiritual work that I was doing. And that really led me to heal myself and get off all my medication. And my doctors called it “spontaneous remission” and it was truly “empowered remission” and being able to heal myself. And it just became a passion of just really wanting to share this with the world and knowing that there are a lot of people who suffer and who are in pain and there are other ways of really taking control and our power back. And that’s how it got started. And, you know, as you mentioned before, I was not charging anything for a good year before I really was able to build up that rapport and that clientele, and then eventually have a successful business.
KEISHA BLAIR: That’s amazing. It’s an amazing story. I just wanted to ask just for our listeners, if you could just tell us what epigenetics?
JENA- SOPHIA: It’s essentially the science of understanding how our genes are expressed. So you’ve heard this old paradigm saying of, Oh, it’s in our genes, right? Like if my mom has this disease, I’ll have this disease or, you know, this runs in my family and that is true to a certain extent, but what biology and specifically Dr. Bruce Lipton discovered a lot about how our genes work and our genetic coding. There’s a lot to do with the environment and the stimulus we give it. So chronic stress medication, spiritual malnourishment, just all of these things on all these different levels. Have a huge. Impact on how we are expressed genetically as humans, how healthy we are or how sick we are.
It’s truly transformational information when you’re able to really understand that there is nothing out of your control. Um, and I know that in this day and age, it can feel like we don’t have control, but really managing your perceptions. Is what manages your environment, which then in turn affects the way that your health is expressed.
KEISHA BLAIR: Yeah. And so, Jenna, you mentioned earlier in this episode that you started out working for free for like the first year. And as I read in your bio, you worked with billionaires and celebrities. Can you tell us a bit about how that growth happened on your journey and in the business?
JENA SOPHIA: Yeah, absolutely. When I first started out, I was working for free because I was taking the time to really practice my craft and really getting a lot of data about what people go through, what needs to get done in order to actually create the transformation. And so I was really using this as like a time to really practice and hone in on my skill. And I did it for free because I had no exposure.
I was not known, you know, I didn’t have any social media or anything like that. So it was just really word of mouth. I started working in family members, then friends, and then eventually after about a year, I started expanding more because I started creating a social media presence and I then I started, you know, charging minimal amounts for my work.
And then in terms of getting more high-profile clientele that actually happened through personal connections and through basically people referring with past clients and then also social media. So it’s interesting social media can do in terms of making a raking businesses, but there’s so much potential to grow using social media and that’s really where my work started to pick up and then being asked to be in media and other outlets and like podcasts. It just kind of grew from there very naturally and organically. But I had to do a lot of work on my own belief systems as well, for sure. To, to even feel worthy of charging and doing this work and then really expanding.
KEISHA BLAIR: Yeah for sure. And just going back to that Instagram post, where you mentioned that you had to get over those ancestral money blocks and that intrigued me a whole lot, and I wanted to ask you about those ancestral money blocks and how you even came to recognize them, and what were your strategies for breaking through that?
JENA SOPHIA: Definitely. You know, if you’re an entrepreneur, the easiest way to figure out what your money block is, is to find something that you want to do, and then see how much, to what extent you can do it or become successful at it. Because really there is so much that we unconsciously don’t even really see that we have these money blocks. And so to become aware of it, I worked with the different spiritual teachers and shamans. This is when this concept of ancestral trauma or ancestral blocks came from. And this is like a few years ago when I was first really diving into more of my health. And what I learned was that on a very energetic level, we are connected to our ancestors, right?
And the same eggs, for example, that were in your mother’s room, she was holding that her entire life before you came. So you are actually absorbing the trauma and the perceptions and the programs and patterns which came before you. So a really great place to start when you’re like, what are my ancestral money blocks is what were your parents or your caregivers, or who you grew up with? What were they saying about money? What were the generation before that saying about money and really looking at the lineage of how money was talked about and related to how much we felt worthy of what we thought we could and couldn’t do. You know, there was a lot of focus, especially in my culture. I come from an Indian background where the woman traditionally wasn’t the moneymaker, so to speak.
KEISHA BLAIR: Right. And so breaking through that pattern.
JENA SOPHIA: Right. And understanding that, Oh, there’s something there around me even feeling like I could do that. Right. Which is probably why I worked for free for so long. Right. And it’s all a journey in your own personal karma that you come with and, and how you’re actually gonna, you know, break through this, and to what extent. But also recognizing that your past and the generations before you do not define you, because it is up to you with your free will to create the life you want and recognize that you did come from this so that you have a direction of where you want to go moving forward.
KEISHA BLAIR: And those are such insightful words. I’m still thinking about the eggs in the mother’s womb. And of course I have three kids, so what we pass on to our kids, you know, and working through that. So Jenna, just in terms of your own process, because you mentioned something so profound and, so many women, especially from my culture too, I’m from Caribbean heritage. I feel the same way because we have that similar culture in some ways. And so for those women who are struggling through that, where it’s a male dominated society, men’s achievements are more celebrated, more talked about, you know, and you mentioned a bit about breaking through that cycle. Could you tell us a bit more about that? I’m really just intrigued.
JENA SOPHIA: Absolutely. Well, we have to understand first how the subconscious operates right. And how our patterns are passed down. We have to understand what the subconscious does and how it operates. So the subconscious, if you think of an iceberg, think about the tip that you can see as being the conscious part of you 5%. Then there’s this huge iceberg underneath, which is the subconscious, which is all your patterns and programs and things that you’ve picked up from society, from parental programming, from television, all of these things are creating a perception of what you feel like you can and cannot do. So between the third trimester, all the way through age seven, our subconscious is being solidified.
We’re like a sponge essentially. So growing up, I had really great role models of both my parents working and my parents having a very healthy relationship in terms of the woman can make money, right? And the woman is able to go have a job and do what she wants to do during the day. Not just a mother. And my mom went to work three months after I was born. So I was really raised by my caregiver. And that also played a huge impact in role on what I could and couldn’t do. But I was always told from a very young age that women should have a right to work. The woman should be successful. Right.
The woman is revered as this intelligent person, not just for their body or their looks or, you know, for their homemaker skills, whatever it is. And so that was really imprinted within me and my mom jokes she’s like, you were in all those board meetings with me. She was a lawyer back in the day. And she was like, you were in all those board meetings with me. And I’m a really good negotiator now as an adult. And I can understand that now because I was picking up on those codes and they were defining my responses. So I was absorbing all of this, so for me, that was to answer the first part of the question then in terms of the tools that I use, I’ve studied so many different modalities. And I think what I realized is it’s not about the modality or the tool, but how you use it and the energy that you’re bringing it.
So it’s not that one thing is going to fix you, but understanding that we are so multi-dimensional and so layered. And there are going to be different things that you need for different times, but you can start by changing your perceptions every day in determining what thoughts am I going to choose? How am I going to respond to things? Where are my shadows? Where am I like holding myself back in my block? Then once I bring light in awareness to it, a really easy way is to just say, okay, how can I take action? Even if it’s slightly uncomfortable to go in the opposite direction. So that’s really what I’m practicing now in terms of breaking through my continuous blocks as they come up as I grow, because you’re always going to continue growing and bending through your previous levels where you were like, no, this is good. And then you want more and you want to keep expanding. So.
KEISHA BLAIR: That’s right. Yeah. I know when that’s great. And I’m just going to switch from money blocks back to health again, and you know, it’s fine because we’re talking about holistic wealth and those are two critical pillars. So it’s all good. When we started you mentioned chronic illnesses, or I mentioned it too in your bio. We deal with the money blocks, and then of course, we all at one time or the other also deal with health issues, whether it’s a chronic health issue or an accident or something else happens. And so can you tell us how you also overcame that Jenna?
JENA SOPHIA: Yeah, absolutely. So, as I mentioned before, it was a very holistic approach. So I did a lot of subconscious work with different modalities. I felt a spiritual awakening in a sense, because when you get so sick in your health, it really cracks you open in a way where you’re like so open to trying anything and believing in miracles, that things just happen when you’re in that space of surrender. And I really think that it was the combination of everything and just also my own, my own decision to stop outsourcing my health and really taking ownership and understanding the body, understanding what would be healthy for me, not what, what I was told would be healthy for me. And just really questioning the information that I was raised with. And I think that is so important when you’re in a health situation is to not just take things for, or how they’ve been told. Like really, really question the information that you’re given. The ability to heal on your own, right? Where do we find ourselves blocking our ability to just really be in alignment on a physical level.
And also in terms of like how wealth responds to imbalances in the physical body. You know, for me, especially, like I mentioned, I had a lot of issues with my reproductive organs. And that is governed by the root chakra. Right. And the root chakra has a lot to do with stability and security and wealth is a huge part of that. So there was either stuff that I came with karmically around money. Like I mentioned before I also noticed a huge trend, especially with women of color of having a lot of reproductive issues. And I really truly believe it’s an imbalance in the root chakra and understanding security and wealth and, and feeling like we have that for ourselves, and really feeling like it’s ours to own and our sensuality and our sexuality and our pleasure center, all of these places have a lot to do with the expansion that wealth gives us. So there’s no mistake that those are interlinked in that way.
KEISHA BLAIR: And that’s very interesting Jena you’re so right. A lot of women of color in particular have these issues. I know many women in my family who do, and I’m so excited once this podcast is published to pass this on to them, to listen to it. I mean, you mentioned it earlier, but I’m just so intrigued as to why this is so, you know, specific to women of color but is it possible to mention, and to tell us again, you mentioned wealth and that’s intertwined with it, which is just unbelievable. I’ve never heard it before. So is it possible to just tell us some more about that from the information and knowledge that you’ve gathered?
JENA SOPHIA: I think women of color specifically back in the day were really revered and honored and respected. And we knew how our own feminine power, and it was something that people were devoted to. Honoring the divine, feminine, honoring the abilities of the womb and that Rite of passage that we do a woman bringing spirit basically into matter. And how that was something that was truly unique to the woman. And without them, there would be nothing on earth, right? Essentially this is the understanding and the reverence, but then I think as it began to play out, there was a huge imbalance with the masculine and feminine energies on earth, and it became toxic because we were straying away from the divine masculine and the divine feminine balance and understanding the harmony with that. And then you add colonialism and you add suppression and you add all of the things that became toxic and society and the imbalance that women became suppressed. And like I said, the root chakra, which is like at the base rules the genital areas, reproductive system, wealth, creativity, security. And so this became to be highly imbalanced, right? And there was such a depression. There was so much fear that it became locked and launched in the womb. And so you see a lot of imbalances then with women, you know, heavy periods, Infertility issues. All of these things are really a manifestation of ancestral trauma that we’re carrying epigenetically and also our own suppression, just being a woman in this day and age. And so that I think is a real big manifestation because now women are starting to step more into their power where there’s more awareness of let’s get women back into their power, right.
But still with a balance of the right masculine and feminine energies, not just fully feminine, because that would be imbalanced as well. And getting back to our center and understanding that we are the ones that birth the world and that we are divine and respected and honored and not having shame around the pain that we have or that our ancestors went through and honoring what they went through. So that we can also be the ones who break those generational ties that are no longer serving us.
KEISHA BLAIR: So powerful. Jenna, you mentioned in terms of healing yourself, that you went into remission and you used holistic methods. Can you tell us some of the methods that you use and what listeners can try to do and in their own lives?
JENA SOPHIA: Yeah, absolutely. So in terms of the modalities, obviously no modality can say that they cure this or heal anything. So just to preface it with that, but like I mentioned, it was a very holistic approach in the sense that I tried a few things and then I added some more and then I just really followed my intuition. So what I would recommend, in terms of tangible things that people can do is really starting to explore the subconscious. And I have resources on my website and other podcasts where you can listen to that. But I feel like now at this stage, what can people do right now? Because what I did is I went and took a lot of courses and did a lot of different studies and this is not available right now, obviously for COVID and it’s not online. So my suggestion is to just understand the subconscious mind understanding and bringing awareness to your perceptions, to the things that you are repetitively doing an action that isn’t serving you or thinking. That is limiting you and start to take small steps to go in the other direction and not jumping from zero to 100, but really just being honest with yourself, like what is one thing that I can do in my power that feels right to shift out of, and you can journal that, or you can think about that or talk to yourself and talk it through.
But that is really, really powerful because at the end of the day, it’s not about the modalities. It’s about you really recognizing what you’re deciding to participate with your thoughts and your attention and awareness, and then making that choice with your intentions to step out of that paradigm.
KEISHA BLAIR: Absolutely. And so Jenna, is it like also partly gratitude and positive thinking, things like that that can help us. With our thoughts and in our emotions? Yes, absolutely. You know, gratitude is immensely powerful. I love this practice of hope, Ho’oponopono Healing. I’m not sure if I’m saying it a hundred percent correctly, but it’s this Hawaiian prayer that you can say that actually. It works on a subconscious level. So is this idea that anything that comes into my reflection is something that I have within me, even if I don’t see it. So what you repeat to yourself is:
I love you. I’m sorry, please forgive me. Thank you. I love you. I’m sorry, please. Forgive me. Thank you.
And you repeat that to yourself. Anytime you’re going through a difficult time. Anytime you have something come into your awareness that you don’t like, or that you’re like, why is this here? Even something simple as traffic, it’s getting you to a place where you, you are so a hundred percent in control of your life and you see everything as a reflection of something within you or something that needed to happen.
And then you weren’t clearing the programs in real time by saying this prayer. And it’s really powerful. So this is something that I suggest to my clients all the time to repeat, because it really is powerful. And you can, you can read a book. I’m pretty sure it’s called Zero Limits by John Vitale around it.
KEISHA BLAIR: Yeah, that’s amazing. And so just to repeat the prayer again, Jenna isn’t I love you, please forgive me and thank you. Or is it the other way around?
JENA SOPHIA: I love you. I’m sorry. forgive me. Thank you.
KEISHA BLAIR: And so, Jenna, I know you took the Personal Financial Identities Quiz that I developed, and I’m so eager to hear your results because through this podcast, we’ve had some amazing guests. And they’ve shared their results. They’re very open and authentic, and it’s helped our listeners to understand theirs as well as others. You know, whether it’s in a relationship, with a spouse or with friends or with family, or even at work, it’s been just amazing, the insights that we’ve been able to share. So can you tell us yours and any thoughts? Of course, we mentioned at the beginning money blocks and ancestral blocks, which is amazing. And so I’m just dying to hear your thoughts on this.
JENA SOPHIA: Yeah. So I got the Risk-Taker and that felt really aligned. That’s amazing. I do really love investing whether it’s like my time, my money or my energy. And I actually had a reading yesterday, a gene key reading, which is a system that can help you understand different genetic codes and frequencies that you came for on this earth. And I discovered that I have one gene key that is all about breaking ancestral money patterns and helping other people do that. So. That was very illuminating for me and how it was this specific gene key holds a very intuitive investment sense and I’ve always felt that way. So the Risk-Taker definitely was aligned for me in general.
KEISHA BLAIR: I have to ask you to tell me more again, because I’m intrigued with everything you’re saying, because I’m a risk taker too. So maybe I have that gene who knows? And so I’m just wondering for people who are listening in, who are Risk-Takers, I’m sure we’re all perked up now. We’re all ears.
JENA SOPHIA: Yes. So Jen keys was created by a man named Richard Rudd. And you can actually go on to the website, gene keys, G E N E K E Y s.com. And actually put in your information. So it’s your birth time, your date of birth and location. And this basically create a hollow genetic profile for you, which has the gene keys that you came with. So there are different genes for like your life’s purpose and like what energy you came to bring to the world or your love and your love life, where your wealth and different things. And what’s really cool about it is that it shows you. Your shadow that you came with each gene key and the city meaning the highest pinnacle of your life purpose, so for example, my life’s purpose is six, so the shadow of that is conflict. And then this study of that is peace. So, and in between that stage is diplomacy. So it goes, I move out of conflict, then I bring diplomacy and then peace. So it can really help you understand, again, more of what you’re saying, consciousness carrying and what your incestual genetic coding is carrying because now you have all your shadow aspects or your blocks than the ways that you’re preventing yourself from really being that full potential version of you in that state. And you can then know how you to operate on a soul level and you can find people that do Gene Key readings and other things, but his site has a lot of great information.
KEISHA BLAIR: So that’s amazing. And so you’re saying that with regards to the risks, I’m just wondering if you can just repeat that part again for us?
JENA SOPHIA: Yeah. So I took the test and I found out that I was a Risk Taker. And then yesterday I had a gene keys reading and my gene keys coach told me that we were focused on different gene keys each time. And so this gene key specifically was about wealth and the highest state was veneration. And the lowest state was failure if I’m getting this correct. And I come with a shadow of failure because the way that we as a collective work is that If we’re not succeeding financially, then we’re failing. Right? And so when we let go of that dualistic perception and we really see everything as an expansion, then we break through those ancestral patterns of thinking, Oh, this is just how it is for me. And I’m a failure. If I’m not making money, et cetera and understanding no, there are different ways to do things than what your ancestors did before you and what the collective is doing with the way that they view money. So it was just an interesting correlation.
KEISHA BLAIR: Yeah, absolutely. And I will share those resources in the show notes for everyone, so they can go check that out because that’s intriguing. And so Jenna, before we end, I just wanted to follow up with a question about the Risk Taker profile and how you’ve been able to build your business and how you think it’s basically impacted your philosophy, how you make your business decisions in terms of finances and money and creating wealth. And as well, as, you know, in terms of your relationship with clients, can you tell us just a bit about how you’ve seen that play out in your entrepreneurial journey?
JENA SOPHIA: Absolutely. I think, you know, it almost comes with the territory of being an entrepreneur. It’s, you’re a natural risk-taker right. Because there’s nothing promised and you know, everything’s up for grabs always. And it’s always up to you how much or how little you create for yourself, the right wealth on all levels. So for me, especially, I understood. It was very early on in my business that mentorship and investing my time, money and energy into mentors in a business way would be very beneficial for me. And it truly has been a really great investment for me, long-term and I knew that. So when I first invested in a business coach, I invested 25% of everything I had, and that is pretty risky, but I just knew that I could feel within me that this was energetically, correct for me. And it’s not that he was going to do the work for me and I was going to make all this money. It was that I knew that he was going to give me what I needed to create that wealth for myself, by holding that space for me and being that energetic container and that business mind that I needed and where I couldn’t see. So I think it’s really important with risk-taking. One of the pros to it is that you really are honoring investments and you can see things that maybe don’t make sense, but would probably work out for you in different ways down the line. It’s not a linear investment, so to speak. And so I definitely have done that in my career a lot then. And also even being a Risk-Taker with how big I’m playing, you know, what audiences am I attracting.
What type of clientele am I attracting? And where did I pick up these belief systems of, I can’t work with people like that, or it has taken me 20 years to be a success and all these different things and being really bold in the way that I’m working on myself and my own belief systems and taking big risks with that, and then playing big what I charge and what I want to create and, and how wild Oh, they’re crazy. My offers might not be understood by the average person, but those who take it, take it and just really taking risks on all levels and trying new things and being creative. And just knowing that this is just we’re in this life for fun. So why not?
KEISHA BLAIR: Absolutely amazing. you shared some wonderful insights here on the show today, Jenna. So thank you so much for doing that.
JENA SOPHIA: Thank you. And I just wanted to say one more thing about the prayer. So I think I got it slightly mixed up, so I just want to repeat it once more. So everyone knows. So. The first step is repentance of I’m sorry. And then forgiveness, please forgive me and then gratitude. Thank you. And then the love part is I love you, so I’m sorry, please. Forgive me.
KEISHA BLAIR: Thank you. I love you. Perfect. And thanks for clarifying that for us too, Jenna. And can you tell the audience where to reach you? So your website and social media?
JENA SOPHIA: Yes. So my website is www.beyondthebelief.com.And my Instagram is @_jenasophia
KEISHA BLAIR: Okay, perfect. So once again, Jenna, thank you. It was amazing having you on the show and we’re so grateful to have shared this journey with you in terms of sharing this story. And so happy for those tips and strategies, especially during COVID-19.
JENA SOPHIA: Thank you so much for having me. I’m so grateful I was able to share and I’m looking forward to connecting again.
KEISHA BLAIR: Absolutely. Thank you so much, Jenna.
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